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Topic kick: Steve Ritchie zei op 30/01/2015 dat ze momenteel aan een update aan het werken zijn van Star Trek.

Gaaf! Ik vroeg me al af waar die update bleef

... en hopelijk zonder die slechte Carl speech. Of tenminste de mogelijkheid om het af te zetten. Evert kan jij dat eens aan de Steve vragen?

Pascal schreef:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWC8Joa ... L3fUNAWK6g

hoe werkt dit?

Will ik ook graag weten

g94 schreef:The Second Vengeance Battle remains a dangerous 5-shot Hurry Up, but if you make all 5 shots, you will be instantly awarded an Extra Ball.

Precies toch een ferme bug hier: ik kan gewoon die award binnenhalen door torpedo's af te schieten terwijl die bal nog gelockt zit achter die target. Gewoon 5 x beide flippers tegelijk indrukken en done

Pascal, ik kon dit niet op de mijne..(pro) wel op Lieven's ook gezien via double flip. Torpedo's is toch enkel via de punch it? Misschien ben je hier iets mee?

took mine apart last weekend to finally fix the ball sticking on the magnet and also the double flipping triggering in vengance 2. here's my observations as i can't find the other thread.
Tried all the usual twisting wires & swapping boards. here's what i did
Removed the guides with the opto's attached, reflowed the solder but noticed that one of the mountings was not at 90 degrees and therefore not correctly aiming the opto. this pretty much fixed the sticking ball issue but i found improvement by going into game settings #2 and setting disable magnet to yes. Bizarrely it doesn't disable it but appears to let go properly in vengance.
Went into switch test and mashed the flippers, you could see the bottom opto sometimes briefly triggering. It looks like it's the connector end as the don't securely fit. Took the board off and mounted it on rubbers which has fixed it. Seems a vibration issue.

Hm, 't proberen waard. En wie weet fixt dat ook die Carl bug

New code is ready to be beta tested! Ritchie asked Keith Elwin to beta test it right on Facebook. Elwin replied yes and that he could get started on it right after PAPA. Ritchie said he wants ST to be a tournament pin

Die zelfde beta-software valt te testen in café de Flamingo II in de Hoogstraat 101 te Puurs! (no kidding!)

En wat zijn de eerste indrukken? Veel veranderd?

David Pinball Wizz schreef:En wat zijn de eerste indrukken? Veel veranderd?

Ga er maar straks naartoe en vanavond hem wat spelen

David Pinball Wizz schreef:En wat zijn de eerste indrukken? Veel veranderd?

Veeel veranderd!
Betere lichtshows, betere uitwerking van de missions, betere kobayashi Maru, Vengeance is mooier uitgewerkt, Away Team is opgepoetst,...

Top update!

Ook een score van 194 en 174 mlj neergezet, hoe beter je het spel speelt, hoe hoger de bonussen wat een groot verschil maakt met vroeger!
Zeker de moeite om eens uit te proberen

Klinkt goed.. ik zou zeggen, een filmpje voor de rest van de wereld? Of is dat nog niet toegestaan?

David Pinball Wizz schreef:Klinkt goed.. ik zou zeggen, een filmpje voor de rest van de wereld? Of is dat nog niet toegestaan?

Geen idee

Heb ook geen tijd meer om daar deze week nog te passeren

No prob, hoe bedoel je dan missies beter uitgewerkt? En vengeance beter? Telt er meer mee in de bonus dan enkel switch hits (vb ramps, modes played, etc..?) Worden de asteroid flashers nu gebruikt?

Nog iets die tproberen waard is:

I also had this problem, as well as the ''stick to the other ball on the magnet'' thing, EVERYTIME!! The only way the two balls dropped was a ball search, it drove me nuts.
I had looked over everything, tried different boards, twisiting wires nonsense, etc, no luck. I then thought, ''well, why does the twisting of the wires work for some?'' Probably because it is tweaking it back into a correct/better position for the beam.
I then looked at the opto set at the front of that magnet entrance/shot, tweaked them so a better beam was present and I haven't had a single issue in months, hundreds of games, no more flipper scoring during vengeance, in fact, no more sticking balls either!
I believe it is because the holes in the metal the beam passes through can slightly block its path if it's not sitting just right. I think the true fix for this is to drill the holes slightly larger.

David Pinball Wizz schreef:No prob, hoe bedoel je dan missies beter uitgewerkt? En vengeance beter? Telt er meer mee in de bonus dan enkel switch hits (vb ramps, modes played, etc..?) Worden de asteroid flashers nu gebruikt?

Tijdens het spelen van missies kan je medailles verdienen, hoe beter je die missie speelt hoe meer medailles je verzamelt gaande van brons-zilver-goud(als ik me niet vergis).
Het is dus mogelijk om alle drie de medailles per mode te verzamelen.
Medailles tellen mee in de End of ball bonus maar ook(en hier wordt het interessant) bij de start van Kobayashi Maru.
Zo levert het verzamelen van bvb alle bronzen medailles 15 miljoen op bij de start van Kobayashi Maru multiball.

Punten die te verdienen vallen zijn ook hoger tijdens Kobayashi.

De Vengeance heeft meer diepgang, zo is vengeance III geen hurry up meer maar wel een mode waar je 10% van je score kan verdienen(en dit zelfs kan verviervoudigen tot 40% als je tactisch speelt!!!) en waar ook even de droptarget een belangrijke rol speelt.

Lichtshows zijn mooier en opgepoetst, asteroid flashers worden nu volop gebruikt tijdens het spel,...
Ik denk ook (maar hier kan ik mis in zijn) dat de speech calls van Karl Urban een beetje op de achtergrond zijn gezet terug want ze vielen me niet zo enorm op tijdens het spelen(maar heb ook nooit zoveel op die vorige software kunnen spelen).

Klinkt interessant! Kan zo een heel ander spel worden op die manier.

Tx voor de info. Altijd leuk te lezen.

Cool,bedankt voor de feedback Evert

Code 1.60 is uit op de site van stern!

cool !

well, not really what people were waiting for...

V1.60 – 03 / 17 / 2015
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1. Tweaked - Added background drone music to redeeming medals.
2. Fix - Mission Start was lit during final shot of the 6th mode. It should not be since you are about to be in Kobayashi Maru Ready state.
3. Added - Give a gold medal for Double Super Jackpot.
4. Fix - Extra Ball was not being awarded during victory laps.
5. Fix - Some lamps were missing from some sweeping lamp effects.

RipleYYY schreef:well, not really what people were waiting for...

V1.60 – 03 / 17 / 2015

you forgot this:

V1.54 – 03 / 14 / 2015
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1. Tweaked - Put Klingon Battle II back to the left ramp for its center.
2. Tweaked - Bumped the values of medals as they are being awarded and during bonus.
3. Tweaked - Increased the values of Klingon Multiball Jackpots and Super Jackpots
4. Tweaked - Added Total medal count to the total page when redeeming medals
5. Fix - When medals were showing their values at the start of Wizard modes, if you had less than a set, they were showing the value of one medal and not all combined.
6. Tweaked - Added Double scoring to Warp 9.9
7. Added - Adjustment: GOLD MEDAL ENDS LEVEL I MISSIONS. YES == Level 1 missions timers will move to 1 when the player achieves a gold medal.
8. Tweaked - Changed the text for the Klingon Battle Adjustment to be correct.
9. Tweaked - Vengeance III now has two parts. You first shoot the vengeance X times. Then, in Vengeance Sudden Death, the drop target will come up. If you hit down then shoot in you will receive 10% of your score.
10. Tweaked - Vengeance III now only ends if you complete it or drain during Vengeance sudden death.
11. Tweaked - Vengeance III will show what percent you will receive on the fly in the background; 10, 20 or 40%.
12. Added - Animations to redeeming medals as the medals “lock” into place
13. Added - Instant info page for spinner value.
14. Tweaked - Made the Flipper speech timer get longer between speech calls
15. Added - HSTD entry for Medals
16. Added - Attract mode shows the Medals Champion
17. Tweaked - Changed the wording of the bonus pages.
18. Tweaked - Massaged the timing and length of the end of ball bonus. Improved the font used for Bonus multipliers during end of ball bonus.

RipleYYY schreef:well, not really what people were waiting for...

and this :

Star Trek PRO
V1.53 – 03 / 11 / 2015
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1. Fix - Mission KB II final shot was not blinking correctly.
2. Tweaked - Made Klingon Battle II harder to get medals
3. Tweaked - PRO - made lamp effect for mission award be similar to the Premium version.
4. Fix - Prime directive III was not lighting mission start when it timed out.
5. Tweaked - Reduced and adjusted the value of redeeming medals
6. Tweaked - Made Vengeance III end at ball end.


Star Trek PRO
V1.52 – 03 / 06 / 2015
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1. Tweaked - away team speech is now played immediately upon lighting/earning the away team award.
2. Fix - Nero II bug where shots were not re-lighting properly.
3. Fix - A problem where the Vengeance kickback was firing at the wrong time, i.e. Vengeance destroyed, start of Vengeance Scoring / Battle, etc...
4. Tweaked - Changed denounce logic on the warp ramp exit opto to avoid system noise that caused a switch closure.
5. Added - fixed/added speech to Vengeance Scoring.
6. Tweaked - Modified Vengeance hurry-up to have a Khan speech follow-up
7. Tweaked - Modified Vengeance hurry up speech to be used as speech + follow-up.
8. Fix - fixed a bug where balls were not being detected/released properly during the first stage of Vengeance Multiball.
9. Tweaked - changed denounce logic for the Vengeance opto's.
10. Tweaked - Vengeance kickback is now more responsive after the initial kick, i.e. sometimes an immediate shot back into the Vengeance center lock would not register as a hit.
11. Fix - fixed several light shows that didn't use allocated memory properly.
12. Fix - First pass at fixing issue with laser staying on after Klingon multiball is over.
13. Fix - Ball would not kick from the plunger after the game auto picked a mission after the player shot away team. Made ball auto plunge at the end of auto pick mission from shooter lane.
14. Fix - Super pops art maxed at 200K. If you maxed the scoring you could get up to 250K per hit. Added more art to allow it to go to 250K.
15. Added - Award Medals concept. Medals are awarded during missions. Medals are redeemed at the start of wizard modes.
a. You can receive 3 levels of medals per mission; Bronze, Silver, Gold.
b. Added - Instant info page for medals
c. First 6 missions award medals
d. Kobayashi Maru awards score for accumulated medals at the start.
e. Kobayashi Maru gives a new presentation at the start for the medals collected.
f. Second 6 missions award medals
g. Enterprise Amok awards score for accumulated medals at the start
h. Enterprise Amok gives a new presentation at the start for the medals collected
i. Third 6 missions award medals
j. Five Year Mission awards score for accumulated medals at the start
k. Five Year Mission gives a new presentation at the start for the medals collected
l. Added - Choreography for awarding a medal
m. Added - Choreography for redeeming medals.
16. Tweaked - Made some instant info pages last 10 seconds
17. Added - end of ball bonus pages / scores for medals and missions completed.
18. Added - game over flipper speech
19. Tweaked - increased end of ball bonus points for base bonus.
20. Tweaked - Moved when Away Team lights from 3 to 1 shot
21. Tweaked - Increased points for completing pop bumpers levels.
22. Tweaked - Increased points for Kobayashi Maru. Including a bonus for completing all 12 shots.
23. Added - Choreography for starting away team.
24. Tweaked - Adjusted the Y positions of some total screens to be more balanced
25. Fix - If you drained in the middle of a mission but the mission was continuing till the next ball it would show you your total and give a speech call. It will now only show you your total at the end of the mission and give that speech call.
26. Fix - The end of some missions would sometimes try and play an invalid sound causing a non-fatal error. There was no outward facing issue. The game will no longer try and play an invalid sound at the end of some missions.
27. Fix - “1 SHOTS LEFT” was displayed in many places. Now they all use the non-plural form correctly.
28. Tweaked - Made Vengeance ready / multiball background lamps move a bit faster, not include the extra ball light, and never be dark for too long.
29. Tweaked - Made Vengeance victory laps be less priority to the awards and super jackpots.
30. Tweaked - Increased the points for away team awards.
31. Tweaked - The drop target goes down for Space jump away team.
32. Tweaked - Shooting final shot in Space Jump after away team bumps you one level in medals and guarantees you get at least a bronze.
33. Added - Grace to top lane change
34. Tweaked - Increased the scores for victory laps in Vengeance Multiball
35. Added - Mode timers don’t time down after 6 seconds of no switch activity.
36. Removed - Unused Feature Adjustment #11 Klingon Multiball Lock Timer
37. Tweaked - Changed the name of switch #48 to BLACK HOLE TARGET
38. Fix - Feature Adjustment #14 would stop mission selecting. Now it only affects whether or not the ball will be launched from the Punch It button.
39. Added - The left and right orbit shots are now lit in Away Team Prime Directive.
40. Added - The left orbit shot was added to Save the Enterprise Away Team.
41. Added - Adjustment to change the number of shots to light Away Team.
42. Added - Adjustment to turn off the inactive timer.
43. Added - Instant Info page for current Warp and where the extra ball is awarded.
44. Added - Instant Info page for shots till next Vengeance mode.
45. Added - Instant Info page for super spinner, ramps, and pops
46. Tweaked - Made Away Team arrow not flash when it’s lit for Away Team.
47. Tweaked - Spelling TREK now adds more value to the spinner plus adds points that reset at the start of each ball
48. Added - Grace to bottom lane change
49. Added - Away team sound and lamp effects
50. Tweaked - Made some lamp effects not use the top or bottom lanes.
51. Added - Instant Info to tell you how many more shots you need for the next medal.
52. Tweaked - Increased Away team spinner scores for Destroy the Drill to be more in line with new spinner values.
53. Tweaked - Vengeance holds on to the ball when shot for extra balls.
54. Fix - Some timer adjustments did not have the correct default values. Mission timer adjustments were massaged to be more consistent.
55. Tweaked - Double scoring background has a higher priority now.
56. Tweaked - Increased the default time double scoring runs for.
57. Tweaked - Made warp ramp score the same as the other two ramps during Super Ramps.
58. Tweaked - Tier III missions all keep your progress if you drain or timeout. You will pick up where you left off with each of them.
59. Fix - Klingon Battle III timer would reset to a large value instead of timing out. It will now time out.
60. Fix - Nero III display issues. The timer was being covered by the ship at the end.
61. Tweaked - Changed the number of shots it takes to start levels of Vengeance. From { 5, 5, 5, … } to { 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, … }
62. Tweaked - Changed Vengeance III in a few ways:
a. Finishing it awards 10% of your score.
b. When one shot from finishing the drop target will come up. Hitting the drop target will make it stay down for a few seconds allowing access to the vengeance to finish and collect the 10% score.
c. When two shots away, the drop target will come up. Hitting the drop target will make it stay down for a short amount of time.
d. Massaged the background display effect.
e. Massaged the foreground display effects.
f. Massaged the background lamp effect.
63. Tweaked - Changed display effects to more accurately describe which Vengeance is ready.
64. Tweaked - Massaged the look of the start of 5 year mission display effect.
65. Added - Animations to 5 Year Mission Award.
66. Fix - Made 5 year mission award speech happen at the correct time.
67. Added - Animations to Enterprise Amok Award.
68. Tweaked - Made the extra ball lamp effect bigger and last the length of the display effect.
69. Tweaked - Made Apron lights mirror what mission the player is selecting or playing.
70. Added - Adjustment to stop speech that is not G-Rated.

yes, was back to edit my post

and than may be i was wrong to sell my ST !? know what i mean David

bah

Of de kast nu dramatisch veranderd hiermee denk ik ook niet. In basislijn blijft hij grotendeels gelijk.
maar de medailles maakt het wel veel interessanter. Beetje gelijk de artifacts in sttng. Verder is het natuurlijk wel een grote verbetering voor een topkast. Zeker op de LE (eentje van stern's beste)

de 2 grootste minpunten aan star trek vind ik:
als je geen mode speelt ben je eigenlijk niet echt iets aan het spelen behalve vengeance en locks
uitwerking van de torpedo's moesten ze veel meer mee gedaan hebben

daarnaast is star trek wel een feest op gebied van flow en modes en licht
ook de verhaallijn die klopt met de film is top

Michel, ik heb van veel kasten die ik niet meer heb wel iets van jammer.. maar langs de andere kant is het nieuwe speeltje even leuk of zelfs beter... maar ja, plaats en geld.. het grootste probleem van onze hobby